Talk About That
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Talk About That

John Driver and Jonnie W

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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Shoe Racks, Seatbelts, and Isolation
June 20, 2024 - 52 min
John compares churches to soft drinks and reveals his wife’s growing (and dangerous) shoe problem. Meanwhile, Jonnie changes his mind about seatbelt laws and tells us about the time the Pope (literally) demonized cats and helped spread the Plague.  Plus, a conversation about love and risk, and why a guarded heart is like putting plastic covers on your sofa.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by 1 out of 5 Dentists: “We don’t recommend anything.”   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Doomsday Preppers, 25-foot Chickens, and The Truman Show
June 6, 2024 - 50 min
John goes to a fishing rodeo and regrets not being a doomsday prepper. Meanwhile, Jonnie makes some new friends at a petting zoo and ponders being chased by 25-foot chickens. Plus, a conversation about Main Character Syndrome, victim mentality, and how to know whether you are being persecuted or just disagreed with.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Bluetooth: “40% of the time, it works every time.”   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Old New Cars, Jingles, and Contrarianism
May 31, 2024 - 52 min
John tells us the secret to happiness and gives his daughter (and himself) a birthday gift.  Meanwhile, Jonnie takes a bucket list trip with his 84-year old father in law and comes up with a new way to get people to look at positive news stories.  Plus, a conversation about the laziness of contrarianism and why we will be remembered for what we built, not what we've torn down.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Paper Straws: “Saving the earth by instantly biodegrading in the cup.”   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Can You Choose to be in a Good Mood?
May 23, 2024 - 31 min
John tells us why he would be a terrible NASCAR driver and the boys argue over whether professional wrestlers are athletes or actors. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a run-in with the cops because he forgets his phone and tells the story of NBC’s diabolical plan to get people to buy color TVs in the 1950s.  Plus, a conversation about worry and the importance of attempting to affect the course of your thoughts.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Voicemails: “It’s like a text message that gets completely ignored.”   ALSO... Jonnie got to hang out with comedy legend Yakov Smirnoff last weekend, and as promised, here’s a fun clip of Yakov on the Tonight Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lwJ23o5qNM   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Are Cicadas Out for Revenge?
May 16, 2024 - 31 min
John goes to extreme lengths to stop his snoring and attracts some local females. Meanwhile, Jonnie’s poor eyesight almost causes a scene at the grocery store. Plus, a conversation about letting go of our need for vengeance, and our inclination towards moral superiority.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Professional Wrestling : “Ironically less legitimate than amateur wrestling.”   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Prejudice, Body Language, and Twister
May 9, 2024 - 38 min
John ponders what the best accent is and wants to bring back the word “comeuppance.” Meanwhile, Jonnie takes his first red-eye flight and tells the story of the time Johnny Carson saved the game Twister from extinction. Plus, a conversation about bias and why it so easy to make a hasty judgment before hearing all sides. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Cicadas: “After 17 years, we’re finally moving out of the basement.”   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Cold Cuts, Traitors, and Self-Worth
May 2, 2024 - 34 min
John changes his mind about lunchmeat and gets kicked out of a football game. Meanwhile, Jonnie turns the tables on a police officer, and tells the tale of the “Human Fish.” Plus, a conversation about self-esteem and the balance between knowing our value vs. over-inflating it.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Coffee: “You just woke up. Quick, pour this hot liquid into your face.”   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Loaded Broccoli, Gift Horses, and Hope
April 25, 2024 - 47 min
John threatens someone with a loaded broccoli and tells us why not to look a gift horse in the mouth. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about redundant colons and gives his review of the newly re-styled Cracker Barrel.  Plus, a conversation about success and happiness and why they are not usually the same thing. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Your Favorite Sports Team: “We are going to absolutely ruin most of your weekends!”   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
You Will Definitely Be Forgotten (and That’s Great News)
April 18, 2024 - 53 min
John gets a ’67 Mustang and some pointy sideburns, and wonders if relatives can see us from heaven. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders how long he could stand on one foot and ponders why having your accomplishments forgotten is actually a huge relief.  Plus, a conversation about living by a standard vs. being ruled by our feelings or the actions of others.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by IKEA: Our Instructions are Shelf-Explanatory.    FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How Concerned Should You Be About the End of the World?
April 10, 2024 - 53 min
John preaches the day before the eclipse and DOES NOT reference it in his sermon. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells the story of a presidential candidate who lost an entire state because of the way he ate a tamale.  Plus, a conversation about the American obsession with End Times prophecies and our human need to know things that cannot be fully understood.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Ginger Ale: “We know you only drink us on the plane, and we are fine with it.”   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Meet Your Hosts
Meet Your Hosts
John Driver is a husband, daddy, writer, and podcaster who has served his community as a minister for over two decades. He has authored, co-authored, or served as the primary collaborative writer for over twenty-eight award-winning books, including the satirical The Ultimate Guide for the Avid Indoorsman (Harvest House) and Not So Black and White: An Invitation to Honest Conversations About Race and Faith (Zondervan). A nerdy humorist at heart, John is a former History teacher who has been featured on Good Morning America and numerous other shows and podcasts. He earned a B.A. in History and an M.S. in Curriculum and Instruction from the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. John lives near Nashville with his wife and daughter. https://linktr.ee/johndriver
Meet Your Hosts
Jonnie W. is a nationally touring comedian for over a decade, performing at major events, clubs, and churches of all shapes and sizes. Having shared stages with comedians like Nate Bargatze, John Crist, Michael Jr., and Tim Hawkins, Jonnie approaches comedy from an absurdly silly and cerebral angle, combining off-beat standup & music into a unique comedy experience.

Jonnie's special, Live At The Franklin Theatre, was featured on Amazon Prime Video, and his two Drybar comedy specials are viral hits, garnering millions of views, and landing him in their Top Ten most viewed for 2021. He has also been featured on the Grand Ole Opry's Circle Network and is heard daily on Sirius Satellite Radio. Jonnie lives with his wife Curry near Nashville, TN, because that’s where all their stuff is. https://linktr.ee/jonniew
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