Episode 22: The Key to Helping the Hurting is NOT What Church Leaders Think, with Des Wadsworth and Leonard Nasca, LCSW 

October 14, 2025
00:00 56:15
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Summary:

In this conversation, Shaunti and Jeff Feldhahn, with guests Pastor Des Wadsworth, and Lenny Nasca, LCSW discuss the pressing mental health crisis facing churches today. They explore the challenges pastors face in providing support to those in need, the importance of lay counseling programs, and how to effectively recruit and retain volunteers for these initiatives. The discussion emphasizes the need for compassionate care and the structured approach necessary to navigate the complexities of counseling within a church setting.

Resources and Links Mentioned:

www.thechurchcares.com

When Hurting People Come To Church

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Shaunti and Jeff Feldhahn are best-selling authors, popular speakers, and internationally-renowned social researchers. Nearly twenty years ago, this average couple stumbled over some things they didn’t “get” about each other. They have been using their analytical backgrounds to help other semi-confused couples decode each other ever since.

Both with graduate degrees from Harvard, Shaunti and Jeff are the authors and co-authors of many groundbreaking books, such as For Women Only, For Men Only,  The Kindness Challenge, and When Hurting People Come to Church.

For more from Jeff and Shaunti, visit www.shaunti.com.
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