Defending Religious Freedom, Inspiring a Pro-Israel Future: Dr. Susan Michael with Liberty Counsel Founder Mat Staver

August 15, 2025
00:00 16:13
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In this episode of the Out of Zion Show, ICEJ USA President Dr. Susan Michael sits down with Mat Staver—lawyer, founder of Liberty Counsel, and passionate advocate for Israel. Mat shares how his legal work has shaped the fight for religious freedom and Judeo-Christian values, his life-changing first trip to Israel, and his mission to inspire the next generation about Israel through education and advocacy. From meeting Prime Minister Netanyahu just before his historic meeting with President Trump, to confronting antisemitism and advancing pro-Israel policies, this conversation highlights why now is the time for Christians to take action that will impact generations.

Chapters

0:00 Opening

0:45 Introduction of Mat Staver

2:00 Mat’s Legal Work at Liberty Counsel

4:00 Mat’s Passion and Work with Israel

6:00 Christians in Defense of Israel

8:20 Mat’s Meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu

12:30 The War on Terrorism

15:30 Wrap-Up

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Meet Your Host
For over 40 years, Dr. Susan Michael has advanced the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem (ICEJ) in the USA and worldwide. She serves as USA President and sits on the ICEJ’s international Board of Directors. She is frequently asked to address complex issues to diverse audiences—including antisemitism, Islam, Jewish-Christian relations, and Middle East affairs—and does so with clarity and grace.

Susan’s involvement with the ICEJ began as a graduate student at Jerusalem University College in 1980, the same year that the Christian Embassy was first established. Upon completing her master’s degree in Judeo-Christian Studies, she returned from Israel with a heart to further the Embassy’s mission among fellow Americans. After a season assisting the ministry’s international leadership to host a series of high-profile pro-Israel conferences across the United States, she was asked to head up the ICEJ’s USA Branch.

In addition to a master’s degree in Judeo-Christian Studies, she holds a bachelor’s degree in theology from Oral Roberts University and was awarded an Honorary Doctorate of Laws by Piedmont International University in 2018.

Dr. Michael leads the American Christian Leaders for Israel (ACLI), has authored books, such as Encounter the 3D Bible: How to Read the Bible So It Comes to Life, and has developed educational resources, including the IsraelAnswers website, ICEJ U online courses, and curricula for Christian colleges.
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