Gratefulness amid Difficulty – ACLI’s Shelley Neese with ICEJ USA’s Barry Denison, ICEJ USA Director of Finance

September 04, 2025
00:00 16:49
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In this compelling episode of the Out of Zion Podcast, ACLI Coordinator Shelley Neese sits down with Barry Denison, ICEJ USA Finance Director, for a deeply personal conversation about life in Israel before, during, and after the horrific events of October 7. Barry shares what it was like to live through that dark day, how Ezekiel 36 speaks directly to what God is doing among His people today, the remarkable transformation he has witnessed in IDF soldiers since October 7, and the powerful ways he sees God’s presence drawing near to Israelis amid war and uncertainty.

Chapters

0:00 Opening

0:30 Barry Denison’s Story

3:30 The Impact of Romans 11 on Barry’s Life

6:24 Insights Since October 7

9:15 Ezekiel 36: Taking Out the Heart of Stone

13:55 “In Everything Give Thanks”

16:20 Wrap-Up

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For over 40 years, Dr. Susan Michael has advanced the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem (ICEJ) in the USA and worldwide. She serves as USA President and sits on the ICEJ’s international Board of Directors. She is frequently asked to address complex issues to diverse audiences—including antisemitism, Islam, Jewish-Christian relations, and Middle East affairs—and does so with clarity and grace.

Susan’s involvement with the ICEJ began as a graduate student at Jerusalem University College in 1980, the same year that the Christian Embassy was first established. Upon completing her master’s degree in Judeo-Christian Studies, she returned from Israel with a heart to further the Embassy’s mission among fellow Americans. After a season assisting the ministry’s international leadership to host a series of high-profile pro-Israel conferences across the United States, she was asked to head up the ICEJ’s USA Branch.

In addition to a master’s degree in Judeo-Christian Studies, she holds a bachelor’s degree in theology from Oral Roberts University and was awarded an Honorary Doctorate of Laws by Piedmont International University in 2018.

Dr. Michael leads the American Christian Leaders for Israel (ACLI), has authored books, such as Encounter the 3D Bible: How to Read the Bible So It Comes to Life, and has developed educational resources, including the IsraelAnswers website, ICEJ U online courses, and curricula for Christian colleges.
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