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So Much More: Creating Space for God (Lectio Divina and Scripture Meditation)

with Jodie Niznik

S5 Ep 3B | Pastor Mark Cravens on Matthew 16 (Peter 3)

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Mark has served in ministry for over 33 years – as a pastor, a hospice chaplain, and professor – not necessarily in that order. He’s also the host of the podcast, Hope Along the Journey, which helps people experience God’s grace, healing and hope in their journeys.   Take a few minutes to meditate on Matthew 16:21-25 and then tune into this interview to hear where God led Mark.   Some highlights from our conversation: How Mark was challenged as a natural people pleaser to refocus himself on pleasing God. How a Christ-centered worldview turns everything upside down. Why Mark started his podcast ministry and why he wants to share the hope of Chirst through the podcast.   You can find Mark at And follow him on Instagram @hopealongthejourney And Facebook @hopealongthejourney   The exact verses read in this podcast are Matthew 16:21-25, NIV   21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life. 22 Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!” 23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.” 24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.  
June 15, 2022
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Jodie Niznik is a seminary-trained lover of God’s Word who has served in vocational ministry for over twelve years. She helps people create space for God in their lives through her Scripture meditation podcast and equips them to take another step with Jesus through her Real People, Real Faith Bible studies and teaching. You can connect with her at
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