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S6 Ep 8B | Rev. Jonna Fantz on Deuteronomy 6:4-9 (Moses 8)

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Rev. Jonna Fantz is a pastor, poet, and perpetual student. She is committed to helping facilitate transformation by encouraging a life-orienting relationship with Jesus Christ.  Her most recent call was as the Worship and Community Life Pastor at Salem Covenant Church in New Brighton, MN.  Jonna has also served as a spiritual director and Adult Discipleship Pastor in the Twin Cities area in Minnesota for over 20 years.    Take a few minutes to meditate on Deuteronomy 6:4-9 and then listen in to hear where God led Jonna.   Some highlights from our conversation: Jonna highlights the transition the Israelites were undergoing when Moses spoke these words. They were moving from a season of orientation to disorientation. We also discussed the seasons of disorientation Jonna has experienced and how the Lord used this passage to remind her of truth she needs to cling to in this season. Jonna gives insight into what “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength” would have meant for the Israelites. It’s a little different than what it would mean for us. We talk about the two words the Lord drew Jonna to: hear and love. And how he was inviting her to hear and love differently in this season of her life. Jonna also brought new insight into the exhortation that the nation of Israel write things down. Spoiler: It cost a lot more for them to write things down than us. Finally, we talk about spiritual direction. We discuss what it is, why a spiritual director is helpful and how to find one.   You can connect with Jonna directly via email at   If you are looking for a spiritual director, you can visit the Evangelical Covenant Church website here. You can also find a directory on the Grafted Life website here. (I personally know a few of the directors listed on this site. Both places are good and trusted places to go.)   The exact verses read in this podcast are: Deuteronomy 6:4-9, NIV 4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. y 5 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.
September 21, 2022
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Jodie Niznik is a seminary-trained lover of God’s Word who has served in vocational ministry for over twelve years. She helps people create space for God in their lives through her Scripture meditation podcast and equips them to take another step with Jesus through her Real People, Real Faith Bible studies and teaching. You can connect with her at
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