Talk About That
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Talk About That

John Driver and Jonnie W

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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The Grinch, Bathtub Boycotts, and Manifest Destiny
December 26, 2023 - 39 min
John tells us about the perils of recording an audiobook and unveils the latest theme music for his “Quote of the Week” segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie writes love poems for a girl he isn’t even interested in and tells us about the time bathtubs got banned.  Plus, a conversation about the problems with modern content creation and how legacy artists like the Beatles would’ve handled it.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Gym Memberships: “For just 40 bucks a month, you could lose up to 31 days!”   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Christmas Fish, Toilet Paper Panics, and the Shoe-pocalypse
December 21, 2023 - 48 min
John can’t stop replacing dead fish for his daughter and tells us the three words every parent dreads at Christmas. Meanwhile, Jonnie buys way too many coats and reveals his least favorite Christmas song.  Plus, a conversation about irresponsible use of a public platform and how lies in print can have real world implications.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Tinsel: “When you want your Christmas tree to sparkle, and your vacuum cleaner to clog."   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Cheetahs, Bad Listeners, and Christmas Toys
December 14, 2023 - 47 min
John reassures Jonnie about his use of text emojis and admits he can’t multitask. Meanwhile, Jonnie finds a car wash with the dumbest name ever and tells the story of the original Doorbuster Christmas toy: the Cabbage Patch Doll.  Plus, a conversation about how to be a better listener and learner.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Egg Nog: “Only available one month out of the year… because it’s disgusting.”   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Missed Selfies, Overconfidence, and Self-Evident Truth
December 6, 2023 - 65 min
John comes up with a brand new drug, and tells us about General Custer. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes on tour with Nate Bargatze in his hometown of Knoxville, triggering anxiety about bombing in front of old friends and family.  Plus, a conversation about enlightenment and the balance between living our lives and sharing our lives.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Mops : “Let’s smear this dirt around with some wet yarn on a stick.”   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Argument Rules, Shopping Carts, and Holes in the Roof
November 21, 2023 - 38 min
John kisses dating goodbye, and tells us the one thing NOT to say in an argument. Meanwhile, Jonnie celebrates the inventor of the shopping cart, and the honorable Judge Wapner.  Plus, a conversation about toxic hindsight and why it’s easier to be a critic than a creator.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Cranberry Sauce: “Much like your extended family, you only want to see us for one meal out of the year.”   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Feeling Superior, Phone-Mo, and Freedom
November 18, 2023 - 37 min
John discovers the subtle difference between prison inmates and referees, and unveils a new jingle candidate for his Quote of the Week segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders whether ancient philosophers would’ve been discouraged if they had put their ideas on Facebook and tells the story of Oprah Winfrey and a wheelbarrow full of fat.  Plus, a conversation about what liberty really looks like vs. what we think it is.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Airplane Pillows: “When you want to sleep on a flight, but also want to walk around with a neck brace all day.”   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Text Etiquette, Being “Cringe,” and The Gift of Angst
November 9, 2023 - 47 min
John has a meeting with his inner committee and kills bugs for fun at dinner parties.  Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like moving around onstage and tells us the unfortunate words uttered by the recipient of the first X-Ray.  Plus, a conversation about angst, assertiveness, and whether some anxiety is actually a privilege.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Mold: “We’ve been going green for thousands of years.”   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Halloween Candy, Stolen Sleep, and Over-Editing
November 1, 2023 - 56 min
John meets an archaeologist and steals gasoline. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders Halloween candy bowl etiquette and gives the telltale signs of a bad hotel room.  Plus, a conversation about creativity and how to know when it’s time to stop editing your work.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Blackout Drapes: “Let the neighbors know you’ve updated your privacy policy.”   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
90s Fashion, Space Cats, and Failure
October 25, 2023 - 55 min
John reminisces about Hypercolor t-shirts in the 90s and keeps an inferior product because it’s too expensive to return it. Meanwhile, Jonnie wants to bring back neckerchiefs, gives a $20 tip to a comedian for a perfect joke about Dawson’s Creek, and tells the story about the time France launched a cat into space.  Plus, a conversation about how to handle failure.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Monte Cristo: “When you want a ham and turkey sandwich, but also kinda want a funnel cake.”   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Hitchhikers, Bad Directions, and Jealousy
October 18, 2023 - 48 min
John picks up a hitchhiker and has a missed connection at a Michael Bolton concert. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like his resting face and can’t find the southeast entrance of any building.  Plus, a conversation about taking constructive criticism and being able to appreciate another artist’s work without feeling threatened.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by People Who Bring Bluetooth Speakers on a Hike: “Hey look, we ruined nature for everyone!”   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Meet Your Hosts
Meet Your Hosts
John Driver is a husband, daddy, writer, and podcaster who has served his community as a minister for over two decades. He has authored, co-authored, or served as the primary collaborative writer for over twenty-eight award-winning books, including the satirical The Ultimate Guide for the Avid Indoorsman (Harvest House) and Not So Black and White: An Invitation to Honest Conversations About Race and Faith (Zondervan). A nerdy humorist at heart, John is a former History teacher who has been featured on Good Morning America and numerous other shows and podcasts. He earned a B.A. in History and an M.S. in Curriculum and Instruction from the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. John lives near Nashville with his wife and daughter. https://linktr.ee/johndriver
Meet Your Hosts
Jonnie W. is a nationally touring comedian for over a decade, performing at major events, clubs, and churches of all shapes and sizes. Having shared stages with comedians like Nate Bargatze, John Crist, Michael Jr., and Tim Hawkins, Jonnie approaches comedy from an absurdly silly and cerebral angle, combining off-beat standup & music into a unique comedy experience.

Jonnie's special, Live At The Franklin Theatre, was featured on Amazon Prime Video, and his two Drybar comedy specials are viral hits, garnering millions of views, and landing him in their Top Ten most viewed for 2021. He has also been featured on the Grand Ole Opry's Circle Network and is heard daily on Sirius Satellite Radio. Jonnie lives with his wife Curry near Nashville, TN, because that’s where all their stuff is. https://linktr.ee/jonniew
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