Demonic–Or Something Else? My Son's Chilling Encounter.

September 26, 2025

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Today, I sit down with my 21-year-old son, Scottie, to briefly unpack a startling street conversation in New York City. While running a “Change My Mind” table at Union Square, he met a self-described Satanist who reached for tarot cards when asked about the identity of Jesus. According to my guest Steve Dabbs, author of "When Demons Surface," this was a genuine demonic encounter. We show part of the encounter, and then analyze the experience through the lens of scripture. READ: When Demons Surface: True Stories of Spiritual Warfare and What the Bible Says about Confronting the Darkness by Steve Dabbs (https://amzn.to/4pCVA2a) WEBSITE: www.SteveDabbs.org *Get a MASTERS IN APOLOGETICS or SCIENCE AND RELIGION at BIOLA (https://bit.ly/3LdNqKf) *USE Discount Code [SMDCERTDISC] for 25% off the BIOLA APOLOGETICS CERTIFICATE program (https://bit.ly/3AzfPFM) *See our fully online UNDERGRAD DEGREE in Bible, Theology, and Apologetics: (https://bit.ly/448STKK) FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Twitter: https://twitter.com/Sean_McDowell TikTok: @sean_mcdowell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmcdowell/ Website: https://seanmcdowell.org

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Sean McDowell is a professor of Apologetics at Talbot School of Theology, Biola University. He has earned two Master's degrees in philosophy and theology and his Ph.D. in Apologetics and Worldview Studies. He is the author, editor, or co-author of more than 20 books, including "More Than A Carpenter," "Chasing Love," "End the Stalemate," and "The Fate of the Apostles." Sean has one of the top apologetics YouTube channels with over 340k subscribers. He is an internationally renowned speaker and he is on the teaching team at his home church in southern California.