Living on Earth with Heaven in View (Brian Zahnd)

November 02, 2026
00:00 44:42
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Have we become so focused on living well in this world that we’ve forgotten the unseen world to which we ultimately belong?

In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, Alan Fadling welcomes pastor and author Brian Zahnd for a conversation about his new book, Unseen Existences: Of Heaven, Earth, and the Divine Mystery in All Things.

Brian suggests that in our efforts to make Christianity relevant to the concerns of this world, we’ve sometimes lost sight of heaven. But heaven is more than a destination after death. It is a spiritual reality that gives deeper meaning to our lives here and now.

Together, Alan and Brian explore what it means to recover a sense of transcendence, why Christian spiritual formation is so much more than self-improvement, and how understanding life as a pilgrimage toward union with God can reshape our everyday experience.

They also reflect on Brian’s experiences with long-distance pilgrimage, the importance of wonder, and how remembering heaven can deepen rather than diminish our love for the world.

This conversation is an invitation to see beyond the visible, rediscover the mystery of God’s presence, and live today in light of our eternal home.


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Alan Fadling (MDiv) is a founding partner of Unhurried Living, Inc. in Mission Viejo, CA. He writes and speaks as an expert in the challenge of hurry in contemporary life and work and how to overcome it.

Alan consults and coaches leaders and their organizations in the U.S. and around the world, helping them work towards long-term productivity that lasts rather than settling for quick fixes that don’t. He is the award-winning author of five books, including An Unhurried Life, An Unhurried Leader, and A Non-Anxious Life.
Gem Fadling, CLC, is a founding partner of Unhurried Living. She is a trained Spiritual Director and a Certified Life Coach who trains people at the intersection of spiritual leadership and soul care.

Gem is the co-host of the Unhurried Living Podcast as well as the author of Hold That Thought and co-author of What Does Your Soul Love? Her work has appeared in Propel Women and Our Daily Bread.
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