Christian Parent, Crazy World

At some point, every Christian parent finds themselves facing “giants” — immense obstacles and seemingly impossible circumstances that stand between them and God’s promises. How you respond in these moments determines whether you move forward into the life God intends, or let fear and discouragement hold you back. In this deeply personal and practical episode, Catherine invites listeners into her own challenging season—her husband’s unexpected job loss, a year of solo parenting, and a disastrous home renovation that threatened to derail everything. With remarkable honesty, Catherine unpacks the real struggles families encounter as they pursue God’s calling in the midst of overwhelming adversity. But this episode is more than a story of hardship. Catherine shares six powerful, actionable steps for any believer facing a giant—whether in their marriage, career, finances, health, or faith: Gain God’s Perspective: When circumstances look hopeless, seek to see your situation through God's eyes—not just the intimidating physical realities (08:01). Drawing inspiration from Elisha’s story in 2 Kings 6, Catherine encourages listeners to pray for spiritual vision that reveals God’s power at work beyond what’s visible. Keep Your Eyes on God, Not the Enemy: It’s tempting to focus on the size of your problems, but victory comes from fixing your gaze on the God who is bigger than any obstacle (13:10). Stories of Moses and Peter remind us that fear grows when we focus on the enemy, but faith grows when we focus on God. Find Your Fight Songs: Worship is a weapon. Catherine describes how building a playlist of battle songs, like "Greater is He" by Blanca, helped her replace fear with hope—even when nothing changed externally (18:09). She urges parents to let worship shape their outlook during trials. Gather Your Weapons: Know and wield the Word of God. Catherine describes creating lists of personalized scriptures to pray daily over her children, her family, and her battles. She emphasizes the importance of having these spiritual “weapons” ready before the fight comes (22:41). Partner in Prayer: Giants don’t fall through solo efforts—find others to pray with and for you. Whether it’s a spouse, small group, or prayer team, uniting faith with others shifts the battle (27:08). Speak to Your Giant—Prophesy Its Future: Refuse to agree with the enemy’s narrative. Catherine recounts how publicly rejecting the enemy’s threats and speaking agreement with God’s promises led to unexpected breakthroughs—in her bathroom remodel, in her home sale, and in her family’s future (31:05). She clarifies: this isn’t “name it, claim it” theology, but the biblical principle of aligning your words and faith with God's revealed plan rather than fear. By sharing her vulnerability, setbacks, and ultimate victories, Catherine both comforts and challenges parents: your fight with giants is part of God’s story for you. This episode provides not only encouragement, but also a spiritual toolkit you can use immediately—so you can keep moving toward God’s promises, no matter how daunting the battle seems. Resources and Further Support Free scripture resources and faith-building tools available at Catherine’s website Blanca "Greater Is He" For any parent standing at their own “Red Sea,” this episode equips you to see beyond your current circumstances, lean into practical faith, and trust the God who is always greater than your giant. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Too often, our entire healthcare system is designed to chase symptoms, not solutions. We numb the pain, mask the problem, and patch the visible cracks—rarely pausing to dig for the real reason something is wrong. But what if this approach is quietly failing our children and families, creating lifelong challenges where there could have been correction and healing? In this memorable episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine pulls back the curtain on one of the most overlooked arenas where symptom-chasing can rob families of true wellness: our children’s oral and airway health during sleep. Bringing practical wisdom, expert insight, and personal experience, Catherine is joined by Dr. Kallie Hale—one of the country’s leading dentists specializing in dental sleep medicine and airway health. Free Dental Airway Assessment: Visit www.toothpillow.com/cpcw and use CODE: CPCW to get a free upgrade that includes a full video assessment, a $50 value. Meet the Guest:Dr. Kallie Hale is the co-founder and Chief Clinical Officer of The Airway Dentists and the founder of Tooth Pillow, a teledentistry platform helping families nationwide address airway-related root causes of health issues. With a national speaking career and a passion for pediatric sleep-disordered breathing, Dr. Hale has made it her mission to change how dentistry and medicine care for children’s well-being—by getting to the source of symptoms rather than merely managing them. Episode Highlights & Key Insights: The “duct tape” problem in medicine and parenting: Many health challenges—headaches, poor sleep, crooked teeth, even mental health—are met with short-term remedies rather than curiosity about their origins (Catherine, 03:38). Oral health, airway function, and your child’s future: Dr. Hale describes how issues like crooked teeth, mouth breathing, tooth grinding, and even bedwetting can signal deep-seated airway problems that affect not just dental aesthetics, but growth, learning, and emotional health (Dr. Hale, 12:00). Rethinking orthodontics: For generations, standard dental practice has started “too late,” waiting until adolescence to straighten teeth and sometimes extracting healthy teeth—while missing the root cause: underdeveloped jaw and airway structures. Dr. Hale urges, “The way we do our orthodontic treatment on our children now will determine how they live for the rest of their life, and how they age.” (Dr. Kallie Hale, 13:41) Signs parents can’t afford to ignore: Grinding, snoring, chronic tiredness, allergies, dark under-eye circles, and persistent bedwetting are early warning lights on the dashboard. “That’s your check engine light,” warns Dr. Hale. From symptom to solution: Tooth Pillow—a simple, child-friendly appliance—offers early, gentle intervention that addresses the root of airway-related dental and sleep struggles, and their virtual platform means families everywhere can access screening and help. Spiritual parallels: Just like in health, our faith calls us to look below the surface—not just masking the manifest struggles but seeking the deeper heart issues, trusting God to reveal the true diagnosis and pathway to healing. Catherine shares personal anecdotes—her own long path through dental fixes, her children’s struggles, and the frustration of being offered “duct tape” solutions, never a path to wholeness. Dr. Hale vulnerably discusses what it cost her to become a voice for root-cause medicine in a profession slow to change, and how she’s equipping parents to “challenge the narrative” in everything—from their dentist’s advice to the way they advocate for their children’s health and future. Are you masking symptoms or courageously seeking the root?As Christian parents, we’re called not just to fix what’s on the surface, but to ask better questions, seek deeper truth, and partner with God in healing—from head to heart. Don’t miss this episode for hope, wisdom, and a practical roadmap to get out of the symptom-chasing maze and into true wellness for your whole family. Take Action: Has your parenting or healthcare journey been focused on surface fixes? Visit www.toothpillow.com/cpcw and use CODE: CPCW to get a free upgrade that includes a full video assessment, a $50 value. Instead of just a form response, one of their doctors records a video walking through your child's photos one by one, explaining exactly what they see, why it matters, and what they recommend. You watch it on your own time, revisit it later, or share it with family. Where is God calling me to look deeper—to discover the root, restore what’s broken, and help my child become all He created them to be? Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

There is no greater heartbreak for a Christian parent than watching a beloved child drift away from the faith. Yet in today’s world, navigating doubt and rebellion in our kids is increasingly common — and even the most dedicated parents may find themselves walking the painful road of the prodigal. In this powerful and hope-filled episode, Catherine concludes her two-part “Best Of” series on Gen Z with Laurie Christine , originally aired on Redeeming the Chaos. Together, they tackle the hard questions: How do you parent a child who’s struggling in their faith? How do you protect your relationship and retain influence when your child is questioning, doubting, or rejecting core beliefs? What actions can help draw a wandering heart back — and what parental mistakes might actually push them further away? Seven Big Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the FaithCatherine briefly recaps the top reasons young people cite for leaving Christianity, referencing Barna Research: Struggling with the existence of evil and suffering Perceiving Christians as hypocrites Belief that science contradicts the Bible Dismissing Christianity as a “fairy tale” Disillusionment over injustices in Christian history Apathy or perceived irrelevance of church Negative experiences with Christians or church Guidance for Parents Navigating a Prodigal Child's JourneyWith raw honesty and wisdom, Catherine draws from her own family’s story and years of hosting Christian Parent Crazy World. She and Laurie Christine outline practical steps — and critical mindset shifts — for parents of teens and adult children who are wrestling with faith: Prayer is your first line of defense. Catherine emphasizes the unique spiritual authority parents have in prayer over their children, describing the importance of persistent, faith-filled intercession. Know your stage of parenting. Are you a caregiver, cop, coach, or counselor? Catherine details how your approach must shift as your child grows, especially in the late teen and adult years. Lead with unconditional love. Affirm your love no matter your child’s beliefs or choices. Laurie Christine highlights the importance of commending kids when they open up about doubt or disagreement, not reacting with panic or punishment. Set and communicate healthy boundaries. While extending grace, be clear about the behavioral standards for living in your home — but avoid enabling harmful choices. Don’t give endless sermons. Teens know what you believe. What they need now is to see the love of Christ in action and to encounter God for themselves. Reject the urge to convince, convict, coerce, or control. Catherine unpacks how these tactics either step into God’s role or mirror the enemy’s strategies. Instead, keep your focus on love, wise counsel, and prayer. Humble yourself and own your mistakes. Apologize when you’ve erred. Humility builds bridges and trust. Releasing Guilt and Entrusting Your Child to GodEvery parent will wonder “What did I do wrong?” Catherine compassionately reassures listeners that even a perfect parent—God Himself—had two children in the Garden who chose rebellion. She delineates what is a parent’s responsibility, what belongs to the child, and what only God can do. Parents must let go of crushing guilt and trust God’s relentless pursuit of prodigals. Practical ResourcesCatherine references a bundle of free resources for parents of prodigals, including scripture prayer lists and episode archives, available at her website. Powerful RemindersAbove all, Catherine reminds parents that God’s love is unconditional — “while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Christian parents must model this same radical love, never shunning, always hoping, and continually interceding for their children. Guest Bio:Laurie Christine is host of Redeeming the Chaos and a mother of four boys. Her passion is equipping moms to raise courageous sons rooted in Christ. This honest and practical episode is a lifeline for any parent feeling the heartbreak of doubt, struggle, or estrangement. Whether your child is beginning to question, entrenched in rebellion, or seemingly far from God, you’ll find encouragement, wisdom, and hope for the journey. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Parents cannot afford to ignore why so many Gen Zers are walking away from Christianity. Understanding the reasons behind this dramatic cultural shift is essential for any Christian parent hoping to nurture enduring faith in their children. In this sobering and highly relevant episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine is joined by guest Laurie Christine (author, podcast host, and biblical parenting coach) for a deep dive into the top seven reasons Gen Z is leaving the faith. Pulling from recent Barna research, Catherine outlines the most prominent factors cited by young people, including the prevalence of evil and suffering, hypocrisy within the church, challenges regarding science, accusations that Christianity is “fairy tale,” historical injustices, church irrelevance, and personal bad experiences with Christians. Each of these issues is explored, not only in terms of what is driving the exodus but with practical suggestions and resources for parents at every stage—from young children in the home to teens on the brink of adulthood. Key Points Covered: A Crisis of Worldview in Churches Only 37% of pastors and 51% of evangelical pastors have a biblical worldview (09:24), according to the American Worldview Inventory. Parents are cautioned not to outsource spiritual formation solely to churches—home must be the primary place for faith development. The Power and Pervasiveness of Cultural Influence Social media, internet, and secular worldviews bombard kids daily, requiring parents to proactively engage in conversations about pantheism, secularism, suffering, identity, and more (10:49). Barna’s Seven Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the Faith (12:02), (32:55) 1. I have a hard time believing that a good God would allow so much evil or suffering in the world (29%): see EPISODE 66 w/ Dr. Douglas Groothuis 2. Christians are hypocrites (23%) 3. I believe science refutes too much of the Bible (20%) See Dr. Stephen Meyer: Signature in the Cell, The Return of the God Hypothesis, and Darwin’s Doubt; also see Dr. John Lennox (The “God Delusion “ Debate with Richard Dawkins) 4. I don’t believe in fairy tales (19%) see “The Case for Christ” & “The Case for Christ for Kids” by Lee Strobel 5. There are too many injustices in the history of Christianity (15%) see Episode 9: How Does Christian Worldview Creates the World We all Want to Live”, see Episodes 93, 94, & 95 w/ Os Guinness 6. I used to go to church, but it’s just not important to me anymore (12%) 7. I had a bad experience in church/with a Christian (6%) see Episodes 39, 40, 41, & 42; see “When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional & Spiritual Abuse” by Dr. Chuck DeGroat Parenting Solutions for Each Season Practical foundation-building for young children: daily devotions, scripture memory using music, and apologetics resources like Foundation Worldview (21:45). Teen and adult strategies: prioritizing tough conversations, choosing churches wisely, and seeking out other trusted Christian influences when parental voice decreases (19:08), (25:20). The unique call to pray for, encourage, and intentionally speak truth into the distinctive gifts and struggles of each child. Featured Resources Foundation Worldview curriculum (with discount code) Books: The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel, Signature in the Cell by Dr. Stephen Meyer, When Narcissism Comes to Church by Dr. Chuck DeGrow Podcast episode recommendations for parents of prodigals and those wrestling with the problem of evil Guest bio:Laurie Christine is an author, podcast host, wife, and mom to four adventurous boys. She leads Redeeming the Chaos, equipping moms of boys to raise courageous kids rooted in Christ. Want deeper guidance?Subscribe to Catherine’s website for a free prodigal bundle (podcasts, articles, scripture lists, and music), plus weekly encouragement and parenting resources. For parents walking the prodigal path, there is hope—you are not alone. Do not miss this critical conversation—because if we want to help Gen Z return to the faith, we must first understand why they’re leaving. RESOURCES REFERENCED AND CITED: “Emerging Gen Z may deliver huge blow to religion in U.S.” by Jeff Brumley (June 8, 2018) The American Worldview Inventory in 2022 highlights worldview beliefs of American pastors. “Only Half of Evangelical Pastors Possess a Christian Worldview: Incidence Even Lower for Most Denominations” (Cultural Research Cente::ACU) ACU Cultural Research Center Worldview Inventory 2020-current Foundation Worldview Curriculum (use “CPCW10” code for 10% discount) Apologia: What We Believe (4 volume set) EPISODES CITED: Episode 57: “How To Teach Your Kids the Christian Worldview” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz Episode 58: “7 Lies Culture is Selling Our Kids: Are They Buying?” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz Episode 72: “What Do People Leaving the Faith often Get Wrong about God?” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowics Episode 84: “How To Learn More Scripture in 2024 Than You Ever Have Before” w/ Zac Fitzsimmons Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

No parenting strategy—no matter how faithful or intentional—guarantees your child will follow God. In one of the most honest and tender episodes to date, Catherine and her guest, D.J Harry, open up about the heartache and hope of raising children in a culture that stands in stark opposition to biblical truth. This is a special “best of” episode that revisits a conversation rich with candor, compassion, and wisdom, as Catherine and D.J Harry confront the painful question: Does godly parenting always produce godly kids? Drawing on profound lessons from the book of Daniel, they discuss what it means to parent faithfully in an ungodly world—and what to do when the outcome isn't what you prayed for. Key Takeaways & Topics: No Guaranteed FormulaThere’s no five, ten, or twenty-step plan that will ensure your child’s salvation. Every child must ultimately make their own faith decision, and parents are called to obedience and faithfulness, not results. Lessons from Daniel: Parenting in Babylon The unpredictable timing and nature of faith-testing in the next generation The importance of a well-rounded education and teaching children how to learn and discern Faith transference as a relational—not mechanical—process Training children to appeal to authority and stand firm amid pressure, without parents fighting every battle for them When the Result Is Not What You ExpectedCatherine shares her own experience of parenting a child who wrestled with faith and doubt, giving voice to the pain, uncertainty, and relentless prayer that many Christian parents experience. She emphasizes the foundational role parents play and affirms that their faithfulness is never wasted. Identity Under FireThe world seeks to rename and redefine our children’s identities—much like Daniel and his friends in Babylon. Knowing who God says they are is essential for resilience. Grace for ParentsCatherine dispels shame and blame with biblical wisdom: even the perfect parent—God—had children who rebelled. God judges our faithfulness, not our results. Hope and Practical Help Real-life stories of wandering and return Prayers and scripture resources for parents of prodigals Catherine's personal update: her daughter's faith journey over several years, highlighting the power of persistent, loving prayer For Listeners Walking the Prodigal Road:This episode is a lifeline for parents burdened with worry or sorrow over children who question or walk away from faith. You’ll find encouragement, solidarity, and actionable hope alongside scriptural truth and raw honesty. Guest Bio:D.J Harry is a pastor, speaker, podcaster, and father of four. He and his wife, Lori, cohost the Better Together podcast, which explores biblical wisdom for marriage and parenting. Learn more at growingbettertogether.org. Parenting Resource Highlight:Subscribers to Catherine’s website receive access to her Prodigal Bundle: podcasts, articles, five pages of scriptures to pray over your kids, and more. If you need prayer or support, email Catherine at katherine@katherineseekers.com. You are not alone. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

How do we raise children who stand strong—and even shine—in a culture determined to pull them away from God? In this special archive series of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine dives deep into one of the most urgent questions facing Christian parents: How can we prepare our kids to stand firm in a “Babylonian” culture bent on swaying their faith? To answer this, Catherine welcomes DJ Harry , senior pastor of Needham’s Grove Baptist Church in Central North Carolina and cohost of the Better Together podcast. With over two decades of experience in pastoral ministry (and a background in education), DJ Harry brings powerful insights drawn from the biblical life of Daniel—a young man who stood unwaveringly for God while surrounded by pressure and compromise. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Timeless Lessons from Daniel:Drawing from the extraordinary story of Daniel and his friends, listeners are invited to reimagine the Book of Daniel as a parenting manual for today. How did teenagers like Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego maintain unwavering faith in the heart of Babylon—a culture that tried to erase everything they knew and believed? You Can’t Choose When or How Your Child Will Be Tested:As DJ Harry recounts, “We don’t get to set the time or the age when our children are going to be pressured.” Like Daniel’s parents, we rarely know how or when our children’s faith will face its hardest tests, but we can choose how we prepare them now. The Power of a Well-Rounded Foundation:Daniel and his peers were chosen because of their well-rounded competence—in wisdom, learning, and character. Catherine Segars and DJ Harry challenge parents to nurture not just spiritual knowledge but also curiosity, learning, and character in their children. Facing the Reality of “Babylon” Today:The episode acknowledges the modern pressures—academic, social, and spiritual—that Christian kids face, often at younger ages than ever before. The analogy to ancient Babylon becomes all too relevant. Where Most of the Crowd Goes Missing:Listeners are reminded that most of the young men taken to Babylon “became good Babylonian young men,” disappearing into the crowd. Only a faithful few—like Daniel and his friends—stood apart. What made the difference, and how can parents cultivate that difference at home? Practical Encouragement for Uncertain Times:Personal anecdotes, including a health scare in DJ Harry 's family, bring home the message that we don’t know what tomorrow holds. Our task as parents is to lay the seeds now—academically, spiritually, emotionally—without presuming on time. Standout Moment:DJ Harry reveals, “If I want my children to have the greatest opportunity to have an impact in their Babylon, then part of that preparation is preparing them to lead in culture.” Why This Matters:In an age when research shows most church-raised kids drift from faith under cultural pressure, this episode is a wake-up call: intentional, daily spiritual formation and well-rounded preparation matter more than ever. About the Guest:DJ Harry is the senior pastor of Needham's Grove Baptist Church in Central North Carolina and co-hosts the Better Together podcast with his wife, Lori. With a background as both a science teacher and pastor, he brings real-world experience to this biblical discussion on parenting. Parenting Takeaway:Are you cultivating an environment where your children gain not just faith, but the wisdom, skills, and confidence to stand apart in their generation? What steps can you take this week to intentionally prepare your child’s heart, mind, and character for the challenges ahead? Connect with DJ Harry :Website: Dr. Dennis Harry Don’t miss next week’s powerful conclusion—and a moment so surprising it changed the course of this interview. EPISODE LINKS: Better Together Podcast CatherineSegars.com Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Rest Isn’t a Luxury—It’s a Command: How Christian Parents Can Rediscover the Gift of Sabbath in a Nonstop World Few topics challenge modern Christian families more deeply than how—and why—to actually keep the Sabbath in our culture of relentless busyness and endless to-do lists. Have we missed one of God’s greatest gifts for our homes? Catherine is joined by Dr. Steven Hall, minister, theologian, and soul-care advocate, to guide parents through the what, why, and—most importantly—the how of Sabbath-keeping for busy families today. With nearly four decades of ministry experience, degrees in biblical studies, pastoral counseling, and spiritual formation, and as the cofounder of Ministry Oasis, Dr. Steven Hall offers a powerful, grace-filled perspective on rest that goes far beyond legalism. In this episode, you’ll discover: Sabbath as Trust, Not Legalism: Dr. Hall reveals how practicing Sabbath is less about rule-following and more about radical trust—much like the principle of tithing. "Trust is being able to say, okay. There's a hard stop here for me…I'm going to trust God with all of my unanswered emails, all my unattended bills, and all my unrun errands," shares Dr. Steven Hall 09:03. Why Rest Comes First: Many Christians “work, work, work, until we finally collapse,” but as Dr. Hall points out, God designed us to work from rest, not rest from work04:39. The Jewish day begins at sunset, with rest and worship, modeling God’s original rhythms. Practical Ways to Start: Sabbath needn’t be another item on your checklist. Dr. Hall shares practical, creative approaches for every stage of family life—from “micro-Sabbaths” to trading child care hours with other parents in your community 14:46, 20:10. Even single parents or busy caregivers can carve out sacred time, with the help of honest reflection and support. Saying “No” for a Higher Yes: Sometimes, honoring the Sabbath means courageously declining soccer games, dance recitals, or church programs that overcrowd your family’s schedule—trusting that what your children need most is a parent who models margin and abiding in Christ 25:21. Notable Quotes & Moments: “Sabbath is not about adding one more thing to your to-do list. Sabbath is about removing all the to-do things from your list.” – Dr. Steven Hall 15:21 “Imagine if parents of young children would live and teach Sabbath, their children would catch it—and break the yoke of the cultural pharaoh over their lives.” – Dr. Steven Hall 17:51 Stories of creative Sabbath-keeping, from couple tag-team strategies for parents with little kids, to the real-life example of Susanna Wesley using “micro-Sabbath” moments by simply pulling her apron over her head for prayer 31:06. About the Guest:Dr. Steven Hall is associate professor of pastoral ministry at Lee University and cofounder of Ministry Oasis, devoted to the soul health of pastors and ministry leaders. Ready to trade busyness for blessing?What could Sabbath look like for your family—if you trusted God enough to stop, even when the world demands more? This episode equips you not only with theological foundations, but also with inspiring ideas and practical steps to lead your home into God’s rhythm of rest. Ask yourself: What is one step you can take this week to model rest, trust, and delight in God for your children? How might your family—and your legacy—change if you made Sabbath a priority? Tune in and reclaim the gift of Sabbath for your home! Resources for Going Deeper The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer Find it on AmazonA highly recommended book that explores the damaging effects of hurry and the invitation to cultivate Sabbath rhythms for a more grounded, God-centered life. Rule of Life Podcast Listen HereA podcast series (early episodes dedicated to Sabbath) that dives deep into the biblical and practical aspects of building habits of rest and renewal. Ministry OasisExplore resources and Sabbath teachings at ministryoasis.comDr. Steven Hall offers teaching, encouragement, and practical guidance for soul health and Sabbath keeping. Catherine Segars’ Christian Parenting ResourcesGet free faith-building downloads at catherinesegars.com/resourcesAccess eBooks, podcast archives, prayers for your kids, and tools to support your journey as a Christian parent. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Most Christians would never dream of breaking the Ten Commandments—except, perhaps, one: “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” Why has the fourth commandment become the one modern believers feel comfortable ignoring? Is Sabbath rest just an antiquated Old Testament burden—or could restoring it be the antidote our over-stressed homes desperately need? This week, Catherine welcomes back Dr. Steven Hall, a minister with nearly four decades of experience, associate professor of pastoral ministry at Lee University, and executive director of the Paul L. Walker Center for Pentecostal Preaching. An expert in biblical studies, pastoral counseling, and spiritual formation, Dr. Hall guides listeners through a rejuvenating look at the biblical roots and modern relevance of Sabbath rest. Key Episode Takeaways: A Forgotten CommandmentCatherine challenges listeners to reconsider the importance of Sabbath, noting how its neglect is rarely discussed or even recognized—despite its place alongside commandments against murder and adultery (00:37). Why We Keep Breaking ItAccording to Dr. Hall, our American hustle-culture and pipeline lifestyle lead us to run on empty—constantly pouring out, never filling up. “Capitalism based on consumerism has no room for rest,” he asserts, explaining why so many parents are exhausted and soul-weary (09:12). Sabbath: More Than Just a RuleThe conversation reframes Sabbath not as a restrictive law, but as a pre-fall creation principle—woven by God into the fabric of human flourishing (as outlined in Genesis 1 and 2). “Humans were designed to work from rest, not rest from work,” Dr. Hall emphasizes, challenging a work-first, rest-later cultural narrative (25:24). Awareness Before ObedienceCatherine and Dr. Hall draw parallels to hidden sins, like the anecdote of Alexandra who unknowingly broke biblical commands before learning the truth. The episode encourages parents to move from ignorance to understanding, and to teach their children the same (16:21). The Sabbath as a Mark of God’s PeopleReferencing Isaiah 56, Catherine points out how Sabbath-keeping was key to belonging for outsiders—all while remaining a powerful cultural counter-sign today (38:09). Not Legalism, but Life-Giving RhythmDr. Hall and Catherine reveal how Jesus didn’t abolish the Sabbath, but restored it as a gift for our wellbeing, not a heavy burden (45:25). A Pandemic of HurryDrawing on John Mark Comer and other modern thinkers, the episode exposes the epidemic of “hurry sickness” ravaging our homes and hearts, stealing the very love we’re called to pour out on our families (35:19). Practical Application AwaitsLook ahead to next week’s episode, where Dr. Hall will unpack “micro-Sabbathing”—real-life strategies for busy parents, caregivers, and those in nontraditional jobs who wrestle with the practicality of setting aside an entire day (46:54). Notable Quotes: “Humans were designed to work from rest, not rest from work.” – Dr. Hall“If the devil can’t make you bad, he’ll make you busy... because if he can make you busy, he can make you tired, and when you’re tired, he can make you bad.” – Dr. Hall (23:02)“The Sabbath was never intended to become another heavy burden. It was designed to lift our burdens.” – Catherine About the Guest:Dr. Steven Hall brings decades of ministry experience, academic expertise, and a passion for spiritual formation. He currently teaches at Lee University and leads Ministry Oasis, fostering soul health among Christian leaders and families. Are you parenting from the overflow of God’s rest, or are you running on spiritual empty? What would it look like for your family to recover the life-giving rhythm of Sabbath this week? Tune in—and discover how restoring this ancient practice could transform your home, your peace, and your relationship with God for generations. Episode Links & Resources Ministry OasisDiscover more about Dr. Steven Hall’s ministry for the soul health of pastors and Christian leaders at ministryoasis.com Books Mentioned The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark ComerFind it on Amazon Practicing the Way by John Mark ComerFind it on Amazon Works by Walter Brueggemann, including Sabbath as ResistanceFind it on Amazon Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Pete ScazzeroFind it on Amazon Catherine’s Free Parenting ResourcesAccess free ebooks, scripture lists, podcast bundles, and more to equip you for Christian parenting at:catherinesegars.com/resourcesOr contact Catherine directly at: catherine@catherinesegars.com Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

What if your family had a mission as clear as any thriving organization? Without intentionality, families don’t drift toward health—they drift toward chaos. In a world pulling parents in a thousand directions, many Christian families find themselves simply reacting, drifting instead of living with God-given purpose. In this must-listen episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine sits down with Derek England, Executive Director of Family ID—a ministry with over 25 years of experience equipping parents to build intentional, value-driven homes. Why This Episode Matters:Every family drifts—unless you set your direction on purpose. Few of us stop to ask, “Why has God brought our unique family together?” or, “How do we intentionally pass on our core values?” Catherine and Derek England shine a spotlight on the practical and biblical tools that can transform your family from surviving to thriving. Guest Highlight:Derek England is not only leading Family ID but has personally experienced how clarifying family identity can radically alter the trajectory of a home. His heart is for every family—from toddlers to teens—to discover their God-given calling together. What You’ll Discover in This Episode Why Family Culture Matters Catherine reminds us that “families don’t drift toward health—they drift toward chaos.” The foundational strength of your family is the most important ministry, eclipsing even your career and outside achievements. Intentionality Over Drift Derek England explains how, after years of approaching work with strategy and goals but “taking family one day at a time,” he and his wife attended a Family ID workshop and immediately knew they’d found what was missing. “Once you think it, you can't unthink it.” Your Family’s God-Given Uniqueness Not every family is called to the same mission. Discover the importance of answering the question: “Who are we?” Hear how Family ID helps thousands of families articulate their unique identity, purpose, and direction—with tools that actually shape daily life. The 16 Family Types Using research and decades of experience, Family ID has identified 16 different family cultures—from “harmonious” (like the elephant: connected and relational) to “focused” (passionate, intentional, persistent). Find out how an online, totally free assessment can help you discover yours. Living Out Core Values Hear how Derek England’s family intentionally chooses and lives by five core values such as “radically protective of quality time” and “unwavering integrity.” Learn why having just a handful of clearly-stated values provides a shared language and an anchor for decision-making—even for young kids. Practical Tools You Can Use Today Family ID offers bite-sized videos and workbooks to walk you through creating your own family identity, mission, and values—accessible online, easy to do in short sittings, and free from cost barriers. The Family ID process includes resources to ensure every voice—including your kids’—is heard as you clarify and celebrate your unique family strengths. Notable Quotes & Moments “When you know who you are, you’ll know what to do.” – Derek England “Our family didn’t start with us, and it won’t end with our kids.” – Derek England “Where there is a lack of vision, the people perish… Where there’s a lack of vision for your family, it won’t thrive.” – Catherine Anecdotes That Hit Home Catherine shares how her daughter discovered a laser-focus and passion in Civil Air Patrol after struggling with direction—a real-life testimony to the power of clarifying vision. Families are reminded that it’s never too late, quoting: “The best time to plant a tree is ten years ago. The second best time is today.” Why This Conversation Is Essential for Christian Parents In an era of fractured schedules and constant distractions, this episode equips parents to reclaim the sacred calling of the family—to be the primary place of discipleship, love, and generational impact. Whether your home feels harmonious, focused, or a work in progress, you’ll come away with both hope and practical tools to lead your family with vision and unity. About the Guest:Derek England serves as Executive Director of Family ID, a ministry devoted to helping families worldwide build intentional and faith-filled homes. With over two decades of expertise—and his own journey transformed through the Family ID process—he’s passionate about helping parents move from reaction to intentionality. Are you ready to answer: “Who are we?”Visit family-id.com to take the free family identity assessment and begin building your family mission today. Your Call To Action:How would your family change if you decided today to live with intention? Why not gather for dinner this week and ask, “Who are we—really?” Take the Family ID assessment together and start a new chapter of purpose-driven parenting. Don’t drift—build! Your family is worth it. Resources/Links Family ID – Free Family Identity Assessment & Master ClassDiscover your unique family type, core values, and intentional strategies to build a faith-filled home using the Family ID online assessment and resources. Catherine Segars’ Free Resources for Christian ParentsAccess devotionals, scripture lists, articles, and tools to help you thrive as a Christian parent in today’s world. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Who Gets to Define the Next Generation? Gen Z Finds Its Voice—and Its Anchor—in Christ Is Gen Z lost in the noise of culture, media, and politics—or are they quietly forging a radical new path of faith? In this powerful episode, Catherine sits down with high school senior and gifted poet Charis Shoemaker to explore how today’s young Christians are wrestling with identity, truth, and calling in an ever-fractured world. If you wonder what the next generation truly believes, and how Christian parents can encourage their kids to pursue God in the midst of cultural chaos, this is an episode you cannot afford to miss. About Our Guest:Charis Shoemaker is no ordinary teenager. A state award-winning actress, an eloquent poet, and—most importantly—a passionate follower of Christ, she represents a new wave of young believers speaking up for authentic faith. Charis’ original poem, “They Say,” recently brought a packed house to their feet at her homeschool graduation, voicing the hopes and struggles of a generation determined to follow Christ—no matter the cost. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Gen Z Under the MicroscopeListen as Charis shares firsthand what it’s like to grow up constantly defined—often unfairly—by societal labels, politics, and the relentless barrage of social media. In an era of fractured opinions, what do young people really hear about who or what they’re supposed to be? The Power of Godly InfluenceCharis opens up about her own journey, including profound family challenges and the steady faith of her mother, a night-shift nurse who made time for Scripture and prayer no matter how hard life got. Her story testifies to the quiet resilience that shapes faith behind the scenes. A Poetic Anthem for Gen ZHear Charis' captivating poem, “They Say,” in full. Her words challenge generational stereotypes and culture’s attempts to define identity—while serving as an anthem for those who choose to be defined not by people, but by the voice of God. “If my life is to revolve around opinions, I would much rather they come from a God who is preeminent than a people who are insignificant... I would much rather they be words spoken by the Word who became flesh for me.” – Charis Shoemaker, 19:15 Dealing with Church Hurt and PainCharis recounts personal battles—including abuse and disappointment with the Church—and how those wounds could have derailed her faith. Yet, she found hope, healing, and her truest identity in Jesus. Parents will find wisdom here for helping kids process pain with grace rather than anger or withdrawal. Who Gets to Define Us?The conversation zeroes in on the theme of authority, urging listeners to ask tough questions: Is our identity determined by culture, by the Church, by ourselves—or solely by God, the Creator who names us and calls us His own? Hope Rising in Gen ZContrary to stereotypes, Charis reveals that a growing number of her peers are returning to church and hungry for real, unfiltered truth. She challenges parents not to underestimate Gen Z's capacity—and desire—for deep faith, and encourages both generations to risk bold, loving conversations about what matters most. “There’s a generation coming up after you that wants truth…Be there for us. Give us that thing to hold on to.” – Charis Shoemaker, 53:38 Why This Matters:In a season when so much is said about the failures and fears of the next generation, this episode highlights a surprising undercurrent: Gen Z isn’t just walking away—they’re wrestling, seeking, and often returning to the God who defines them. Catherine and Charis Shoemaker’s honest exchange offers hope to every parent praying for their child’s faith journey. Memorable Moments: The story of Charis Shoemaker's friend whose final words were simply, “Trust Jesus”—a moving reminder of the enduring legacy of authentic faith (35:33). An inspiring encounter with a peer who worships “mother earth” and how open conversation sows seeds of truth and friendship (52:53). The recognition that every generation faces labels, but the only voice that matters is God’s. Modern Application:Christian parents, take heart! The next generation is listening, watching, and longing for truth—especially from you. Your example, prayers, and honest conversations matter more than ever. As you foster their search for identity, remember: God alone must anchor our children in a world desperate to define them. Call to Action:How are you helping your children—or the young people in your life—listen to God’s voice above all others? This week, try having an open conversation about identity and faith at home. Share your own story, and invite them to share theirs—uncut, unfiltered, and real. Resources Mentioned: “Gay Girl, Good God” by Jackie Hill Perry The Narrow Road (song by Reagan James Boone) Let us know: How are you equipping your family to anchor their identity in Christ, not in what “they say”? Share your thoughts and experiences with us on social media, or email your parenting questions for future episodes! Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.