Christian Parent, Crazy World

What if the places of brokenness in our lives—and our children’s—are exactly where God wants to bring healing, hope, and purpose? In today’s must-listen episode, Catherine welcomes world-renowned evangelist and bestselling author Nick Vujicic, whose life without limbs has become a global testimony that no pain is wasted in God’s hands. His newest book, Champions for the Brokenhearted, invites parents and churches to serve, love, and notice those society too often pushes aside. 🌟 What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Jesus’ Heart for the BrokenheartedDive deep into Isaiah 61 and discover why binding up wounds was central to Jesus’ mission—and should shape Christian parenting today. Why Silence Hurts MoreHear honest talk about why families and churches shy away from topics like abuse, bullying, addiction, and abortion—and the urgent need to speak up. Actionable CompassionFind practical steps for helping those in pain, including specific ideas for parents to empower their kids as agents of hope. Stories That HealNick Vujicic shares from his personal journey and real-life testimonies that prove brokenness does not disqualify—it prepares us to be miracles. Notable Quotes “Brokenness doesn’t discriminate… it’s the common denominator of humanity.” “When you don’t get a miracle, you can still be one.” “It’s not just about gathering a crowd—it’s about how many broken hearts your church helps heal.” Why It Matters More than ever, Christian parents must cultivate empathy and compassion in their homes. This episode equips families to move past cultural perfectionism and step boldly into the messy but sacred work of loving the hurting. About the Guest Nick Vujicic is an internationally renowned Australian-American evangelist, speaker, and author whose story of faith and perseverance has inspired millions. Through NickV Ministries and his global outreach, he has shared the Gospel with over 812 million people in 84 countries, and his motivational platform, Attitude is Altitude, has reached more than 2 billion. Born without limbs and facing rejection, bullying, and depression, Nick encountered Jesus Christ and found hope, purpose, and a calling to minister to the brokenhearted. Nick has addressed 12 national governments and met with 24 world leaders, sharing a message of resilience and the transforming power of God—proving that with Christ, anything is possible. Key Links: Order Champions for the Brokenhearted Become a Champion at org Access more free resources at catherine@catherinesegars.com 🗝️ Call to Action Ask your family: Who is hurting in our midst, and how can we step forward with Jesus’ compassion this week? Listen now and discover how God wants to use the broken pieces of your story—and your children’s—for His glory. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

What happens when a viral political debate meets centuries of biblical prophecy—and your kids are the ones asking the hard questions? In this pivotal episode, Catherine confronts a question that’s as theologically complex as it is culturally relevant: Is the modern nation of Israel the same Israel God promised to Abraham, or has the church replaced her in God’s plan? This topic has taken center stage in cultural and theological debates, fueled by viral exchanges between commentators like Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz, as well as in the classroom, on college campuses, and around family dinner tables. Catherine welcomes back Jewish historical scholar Clifton Payne Junior for a deep dive into Israel’s biblical, historical, and genealogical identity. Key moments include: The viral exchange between Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz that exposed how unprepared many believers—and national leaders—are to answer “Is the Israel of Genesis 12 the same as modern Israel?” Dinesh D'Souza’s fascinating breakdown of how the Jewish people have genetically, culturally, and historically preserved their identity despite centuries of exile and persecution. Powerful prophecies in Ezekiel, Isaiah, and Amos—read in synagogues on the very day Israel was reborn in 1948—that reveal God’s hand at work through history. The “dry bones” prophecy, dissected in real-time as evidence of God reviving both the physical and spiritual life of the Jewish nation, with numbers of Messianic Jews in Israel growing 100-fold since 1948. A behind-the-scenes look at why so many Christians (and their kids) misunderstand Israel’s role in God’s redemptive plan, and how replacement theology distorts our perspective and engagement with both history and scripture. The core of “replacement theology” and why it matters. Whether the modern state of Israel (established in 1948 and led by Benjamin Netanyahu) is truly the continuation of the nation God promised to Abraham. The mystery of partial spiritual blindness over the Jewish people, the rise of Messianic Jews, and scriptural explanations many Christians and Jews have missed. The danger of misunderstanding Israel’s significance, and how well-meaning Christians and secular thinkers alike have sometimes distorted or neglected the biblical narrative. Special attention is given to Ezekiel 37’s “valley of dry bones” prophecy, the fulfillment of Isaiah 66’s “nation born in a single day,” and the astonishing coincidence that the scheduled synagogue reading on the Sabbath Israel was reborn included Amos 9’s promise of restoration—a detail highlighted from Jonathan Cahn’s Book of Mysteries. Through scholarly insight, biblical exposition, and practical application, this episode equips parents to have intelligent, faithful conversations with their children about Israel, prophecy, and what it means to “bless” this nation. It concludes with a call to pray for the peace of Jerusalem and a reminder that God’s faithfulness to Israel is a testament to His faithfulness to all His people. Meet the Guest: Guest bio: Clifton Payne Junior is a gifted Bible teacher and Jewish historical scholar with advanced studies in Jewish history from Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Author of “What the Bible Really Says About Tithing and Giving: It’s Different Than You Think,” he brings clarity and depth to some of the most misunderstood questions facing the Church today. References: One for Israel: “Israel’s Dry Bones Prophecy about Israel Coming Back to Life” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Why is the world obsessively fixated on a tiny nation in the Middle East, and what does it mean for Christian parents raising the next generation? In this riveting episode, Catherine asks one of the most urgent questions of our time: What is happening in Israel—and how does it connect to ancient prophecy and our daily parenting? To help answer, she welcomes acclaimed author, filmmaker, and Christian apologist Dinesh D'Souza, whose new documentary, The Dragon’s Prophecy, is based on Jonathan Cahn’s bestselling book and brings biblical prophecy and current events to vivid life. Dinesh D'Souza, whose career spans best-selling novels, blockbuster documentaries, and service in the Reagan White House, brings unparalleled insight to the intersection of faith, history, and politics. In this episode, he unpacks why Israel sits at the center of an ancient spiritual war, why Revelation 12 holds the key to understanding headlines today, and how the battle between good and evil is not just on distant soil—but in every soul. Key highlights include: The chilling reality of October 7, 2023, and never-before-seen footage that reveals the spiritual darkness behind terrorist acts. The core message of The Dragon’s Prophecy: Evil is real, embodied in the biblical “dragon”—and parents must recognize the spiritual war behind the chaos. How ancient battles between Israelites and Philistines eerily parallel today’s conflict, and why biblical prophecy continues to unfold before our eyes. The power of biblical archaeology in verifying the historical accuracy of Scripture—from Pontius Pilate’s existence to the discovery of King David’s palace—arming parents and skeptics alike with facts to defend their faith. Tough questions about modern Israel, replacement theology, and the promises God made to Abraham’s descendants, with thoughtful discussion on both biblical and political identity. Notable moment: “There is a world behind the world and...the events we see are incomplete if we don’t understand them as part of a cosmic struggle between good and evil.” –Dinesh D'Souza As Christian parents, we’re called not just to read the news, but to “discern the moment” (1 Chronicles 12:32)—guiding our children with faith, courage, and wisdom in a time of spiritual war. Don’t miss this eye-opening episode—and consider: How will you prepare your kids not just to survive, but to lead in the times to come? ABOUT THE GUEST:Dinesh D'Souza was born in Mumbai, India, came to the U.S. as an exchange student and graduated from Dartmouth College in 1983. In his twenties, he served as a policy analyst in the Reagan White House and later as a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and Stanford’s Hoover Institution. He has produced eight documentary films—three among the top ten highest-grossing political documentaries ever—including Obama’s America, Hillary’s America, and 2000 Mules. A bestselling author, D’Souza has written influential works on politics, culture, and faith such as Illiberal Education, What’s So Great About America, and What’s So Great About Christianity. He also hosts The Dinesh D’Souza Podcast, reaching about 100,000 viewers and listeners daily. EPISODE LINKS: The Dragon’s Prophecy Film The Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Catherine’s Prodigal Bundle Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

What if the cultural chaos we’re witnessing isn’t just political or social—but a visible sign of ancient, unseen spiritual forces at work? In this riveting episode, Catherine welcomes back New York Times bestselling author and esteemed spiritual leader Jonathan Cahn. Known for his prophetic insight and viral teachings, Jonathan brings parents face-to-face with revelations from his explosive new book, The Avatar: The Return of the Ancients and the Future of America. With global headlines swirling—hostage releases in the Middle East, political shake-ups at home—Jonathan argues that these events are rooted in spiritual battles dating back thousands of years. He takes listeners on a journey through scripture and current history, demonstrating that ancient “gods” and principalities are reclaiming influence in our modern world, often in ways that fly under the radar of the Western mind. Key insights from the episode: The spiritual war behind the headlines: Jonathan unpacks how events like the October 7 attacks in Israel and miraculous hostage returns are spiritual manifestations, echoing patterns seen throughout biblical history. America’s spiritual crossroads: Drawing from The Return of the Gods, Jonathan reveals the “dark trinity” of Baal, Ashtoreth/Ishtar, and Molech—ancient entities driving materialism, sexual confusion, and the destruction of life in today’s society. The avatar phenomenon: Through spellbinding personal anecdotes from India, Cuba, and Africa, Jonathan explains how avatars—human embodiments of these ancient spirits—are still being worshipped globally, and how this practice is stealthily influencing Western cultures and politics. Surprising connections in U.S. leadership: Catherine and Jonathan dive into uncanny parallels between political figures (including Kamala Harris and Donald Trump) and ancient gods and biblical leaders, even uncovering astonishing links between their birthdates and sacred calendar readings. The warning and the call: While God sometimes uses unlikely leaders (the "Jehu" template) to roll back spiritual darkness, ultimate hope for America rests not in politicians but in a nationwide revival—a return to the worship of the one true God, starting in our homes and families. Notable moments: Jonathan’s miraculous encounters with spiritual warfare overseas and their effect on communities. Catherine’s research into how avatars are selected and worshipped in modern cultures—and the resulting persecution of Christians and Jews. The uncanny timing of U.S. leaders’ births with ancient holy days and scriptural readings. As Jonathan cautions: “If we change the government, but we don’t change the hearts of the people, the unchanged hearts are going to change the government back... The only thing that can save America is revival.” About the guest: Jonathan Cahn has been named along with Billy Graham as one of the top spiritual leaders to have radically impacted our world in modern times. He has spoken at the United Nations, on Capitol Hill, to Members of Congress, and to millions around the world. Every one of his books, starting with The Harbinger to The Dragon’s Prophecy, has become a New York Times Bestseller. He is recognized as a prophetic voice for our times. His teachings and prophetic messages on YouTube have received over 100 million views. He leads Beth Israel at the Jerusalem Center in Wayne, New Jersey — and Hope of the World ministry, a world outreach of God’s word and compassion to the world’s most needy. Learn more at https://www.hopeoftheworld.org/. For Christian parents:Are you equipping your children to recognize and stand firm in the real spiritual battle behind today’s headlines? Consider how you’re fostering discernment, spiritual awareness, and an unshakeable faith in your home. What steps can you take to invite revival—in your family, your church, and your community? Subscribe to Catherine’s Website for more faith-fueled insight, and learn how to stay anchored in truth in a world that is anything but predictable. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Can God still move mountains, heal the sick, and intervene in dramatic, supernatural ways—or are miracles a thing of the past? Does the power of our prayers invite God’s hand, or is it all predetermined? In this unforgettable episode, Catherine sits down with Clifton Payne Jr.—author, pastor, and someone who has personally witnessed the miraculous—to tackle these timely and crucial questions for every Christian parent. Together, they explore: Real-Life Miracles: Clifton shares a stunning testimony of praying over his wife’s dearest friend—a woman with a terminal brain tumor who, against all odds, survived life-threatening surgery and then, during a moment of crisis, experienced an instantaneous healing as they cried out to God. “Not in my name nor authority, but in the authority of Jesus of Nazareth—I command these fluids to be gone.” Instantly, her lungs, ravaged by stomach acids, were clear. “I didn’t feel anything except a sense of anger at the injustice—but the miracle happened.” When Miracles Don’t Come: Even after this incredible event, Clifton and his family faced sorrow as their friend soon passed away. Together, Catherine and Clifton wrestle with what it means when God doesn’t answer as we hope. The Role of Prayer: Drawing on scripture and personal experience, they discuss how prayer isn’t just a ritual—it’s a gateway for God’s will on earth. Clifton notes, “Jesus gave us a model prayer: ‘on earth as it is in heaven.’ Is there any sickness in heaven? No. Poverty? No. So I can always pray against those things.” Catherine urges parents, “It won’t be my lack of faith or prayer that prevents God from doing the miracle. I’m going to pray for healing, and for His will to come.” God’s Not a Formula—He’s a Relationship You’ll be challenged by the reminder that miracles aren’t the result of a spiritual formula or magic words. Cliff and Catherine emphasize that God leads and acts through relationship, not rote ritual. “Always write your theology in pencil,” Cliff was taught. We’re called to listen, trust, and obey—even when the outcome isn’t what we’d have chosen. Seeking rules and protocols miss the point: “It’s all about being in tune with the Spirit, walking closely with God, and learning to hear His voice.” Prayers and “Coincidences”: Clifton quotes Canon J. John: “When we pray, coincidences happen. When we don’t, they don’t.” The episode emphasizes that partnering with God in prayer is far more than wishful thinking—it’s joining Him in His ongoing work. Standout Quotes: “God doesn’t always write the story the way you would.” “When we pray, coincidences happen. When we don’t, they don’t.” As Christian parents, the question isn’t just does God still perform miracles?—but are we inviting Him into our lives and our children’s future through faith-filled prayer? Can your children witness the wonder of God—not just hear about it? About the guest:Clifton H. Payne Jr., author of What the Bible Really Says About Tithing and Giving: It’s Different than You Think, is a former pastor, Bible student, and eye-witness to miraculous moves of God, whose journey from church hurt to New Age, and back to vibrant faith, is a testimony every parent should hear. Tune in for encouragement, challenge, and hope—discover how faith (and prayer) can unlock God’s intervention in the crazy world we parent in. Discussion prompt for parents:What miraculous answers to prayer—big or small—have you witnessed or experienced? How can you model faith-filled prayer to your children, trusting that God still listens and acts, even when the outcome isn’t what you expected? Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

How do you stand firm as a godly parent when your child’s crisis brings you to your knees?Every parent faces storms—but not every parent is prepared to battle through them. In this powerfully practical “best of” episode, Catherine tackles one of the toughest and most urgent questions every Christian parent will encounter: How do I parent through a crisis with my child—especially when their choices break my heart? Joining Catherine is Laine Lawson Craft, author of The Parent Battle Plan: Warfare Strategies to Win Back Your Prodigal and a veteran mother who persevered through fifteen years of prodigal seasons with her own children. Laine’s faith-filled wisdom and firsthand experience anchor today’s conversation, offering hope and actionable strategies for every parent walking through the valley. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How to Stop Enabling Destructive Behaviors:Practical steps for evicting enablement and setting boundaries that promote genuine change. Why Self-Care Is Essential for Parents in Crisis:Discover why caring for yourself isn’t selfish—it’s vital for your endurance. Tools for Battling Shame, Fear, and Judgment:Strategies to guard your mind, take thoughts captive, and focus on God’s promises. Navigating Outside Opinions and Gossip:Insights for responding to unsolicited advice and protecting your heart. Finding Community and Support:The importance of Christian counseling and safe, faith-filled relationships. Praying with Authority Over Your Children:Join Catherine and Lane for a powerful time of intercessory prayer—learn to stand firm spiritually for your child’s future. Why It Matters:Crisis doesn’t have to derail your life or your child’s future—or your hope. Laine’s story and Catherine’s scriptural encouragement reveal that no prodigal is too far gone for God. Your prayers and faith set the stage for miracles—and even battle-scarred parents can discover new strength. Featured Guest:Lain Lawson Craft is a speaker, faith leader, and author specializing in spiritual strategies for parents of prodigals. Her book, The Parent Battle Plan: Warfare Strategies to Win Back Your Prodigal, equips parents with practical tools for restoration and warfare. Notable Quotes: “You can’t be the parent and be the kid’s best friend. That’s where boundaries start.” “When we declare God’s Word...we keep hope alive for our prodigal child.” Resources & Links: The Parent Battle Plan: Warfare Strategies to Win Back Your Prodigal Catherine’s Free Prodigal Bundle for parents (scripture list, resources, podcasts): A Thought to Take Home:Are you fighting for your child with all the weapons God has given you—prayer, boundaries, and the support of a community who understands? How might you step into greater spiritual authority over the storm your family is facing? Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Every Christian parent’s worst fear is watching their child walk away from the faith. But what if the journey of the prodigal is not the end, but the battleground where God can write a powerful redemption story? In this poignant and hope-filled episode, Catherine tackles one of the most heart-wrenching topics for families: How to battle—and hope—for prodigal children. Whether your own child has strayed, or you’re supporting a loved one through this trial, this conversation delivers comfort, clarity, and a lifeline of practical guidance. Catherine is joined by special guest Laine Lawson Craft, a bestselling author, speaker, and spiritual warrior for parents of prodigals. Lane’s book, The Parent’s Battle Plan: Warfare Strategies to Win Back Your Prodigal is grounded in her raw, personal experience raising three prodigal teens—each with their own struggles, battles, and miraculous moments of deliverance. Key Insights & Takeaways: You are NOT alone. Both Catherine and Lane share how parents of prodigals often experience deep guilt and stigma. Lane candidly recalls her initial panic and shock, but repeatedly urges, “You are not alone.” Trade panic for strategy. The enemy seeks to devour, but parents are not helpless. Lane and Catherine outline a “battle plan” rooted in prayer, surrender, and practical spiritual authority. Guilt does not belong to you. As Lane puts it, “Blaming ourselves only serves to beat ourselves up a little more over things that are not under our control. The other party participating with our children is Satan. If we need to lay blame, that is where it should go.” The battle is spiritual—and winnable. An eye-opening segment breaks down how parents must recognize the true enemy and begin waging war in the spirit, not in the flesh. The authority of a parent in prayer is unmatched. Catherine and Lane both describe the transformative power of praying the Word over your children and exercising God-given parental authority. Lane’s vivid “paintbrush” imagery (covering her children with the blood of Jesus in prayer) is a practical tool for all parents. Surrender is partnership, not defeat. The hardest step—actually handing our children over to the Lord—is where God’s power steps in. Lane poignantly shares, “When our children are hurting...we must surrender them to God in an altar-like place.” This episode is packed with resources, hope, and hard-won wisdom, reminding every listener that God sees every tear and is always working—often behind the scenes—for redemption. If you’re weary or burdened on the prodigal journey, you’ll leave with renewed strength, proven battle strategies, and the knowledge that your prayers matter. About the Guest:Lane Lawson Craft is a bestselling author, speaker, and the creator of The Parent’s Battle Plan: Warfare Strategies to Win Back Your Prodigal. As a mother who fought—and won—the battle for her three children, Lane’s voice is trusted, authentic, and brimming with hope for families facing the heartbreak of a prodigal season. Resource Highlight:Download Catherine’s free Prodigal Bundle at catherinesegars.com—practical scriptures, articles, and more to help you pray powerfully and strategically over your wandering child. Don’t forget to tune in for Part Two of this “best of” series, where Catherine and Lane go even deeper into setting boundaries, handling outside judgment, and finding support for your toughest seasons as a Christian parent. SUBSCRIBE, DOWNLOAD your free prodigal resources, and share this episode with someone who needs hope for their prodigal today! EPISODE RESOURCES: Laine’s Website: https://lainelawsoncraft.com/ Catherine’s Prodigal Bundle PRAYER SERIES: Ep. 13 – 4 Types of Prayer Every Believer Should Know Ep. 14 – How To Battle for Your Kids in Prayer Ep. 15 – What Should I Expect When I Battle in Prayer? Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Evil Doesn't Knock—It Shatters. Are Your Kids Ready to Stand? Evil doesn’t knock politely—it barrels into our lives, demanding a response. In an era marked by darkness and division, how do we prepare the next generation to stand firm in their faith rather than buckle under pressure? Truth is Targeted In this powerful and timely episode, Catherine tackles one of the toughest challenges facing Christian families today: equipping kids—and ourselves—with the courage and conviction to remain steadfast when evil seems to prevail. The tragic and shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk—celebrated Christian leader, founder of Turning Point USA, and unapologetic voice for truth—becomes both the backdrop and the catalyst for a discussion every Christian parent must hear. Catherine draws from deeply personal reflections and public reactions to Charlie Kirk’s legacy, highlighting the slander, misunderstandings, and outright hostility he faced even as he modeled a rare blend of conviction and compassion. Through clips of Charlie responding to vulnerable students—including those struggling with gender dysphoria or rejected by their own communities—listeners experience firsthand his unwavering grace and commitment to loving those who disagreed with him. “You don’t get assassinated for telling lies. You get assassinated for telling the truth, and people start listening.” Key Insights & Takeaways 🎯 Truth vs. Slander How culture distorts reality through headlines and labels, and what it truly means to test everything against the Word of God. 💛 Modeling Compassion and Conviction Learning from Charlie Kirk’s public interactions—how to defend biblical truth without losing kindness, and how to refuse easy categories of “us vs. them.” 🛡️ Preparing for the Day of Evil Catherine shares her own prayer journey as a mother, using Ephesians 6 as a roadmap for equipping our children not to avoid evil, but to “stand firm” when testing comes. ✨ God at Work in Darkness Even as the world mocks and vilifies, incredible stories emerge—atheists questioning their unbelief, the bereaved forgiving with Christ-like love, and the gospel shining unmistakably through tragedy. 🌱 Hope and a Call to Action Inspired by Charlie’s own words—_“I want to be remembered for courage, for my faith”_—Catherine exhorts parents to cultivate resilience, spiritual discipline, and a living, breathing relationship with Jesus for their families, not just a cultural Christianity. Notable Moments The viral words of forgiveness from Erica Kirk, Charlie’s widow, whose astonishing grace toward her husband’s killer became a global witness to the gospel: “The answer to hate is not hate… always love. Love for our enemies and love for those who persecute us.” Catherine adds, “This is the clearest evidence of the gospel I have ever seen in my lifetime.” Reflection for Christian Parents Are you raising children for comfort—or for courage? When evil comes (not if), will your family be ready to stand? Tune in to hear how Christian parents can respond—not with fear, but with faith, hope, and the power of God’s Word. Then, ask yourself: What are you doing today to prepare your kids to stand firm in a world that may one day hate them for loving Jesus? Share your thoughts, prayers, and stories with us, and pass this life-changing episode on to every parent who needs encouragement to stay strong. Resources & Next Steps For more resources—including Catherine’s free Prodigal Bundle and tools to pray scripturally for your children—visit https://catherinesegars.com/. Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Christian Parent/Crazy World on your favorite podcast platform. “God gave you your specific kids for a reason. You hold the key to unlocking who God created them to be.” Are you equipping them for a faith that stands firm—no matter the cost? Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

For centuries, the Church wasn’t just a home for faith—it was the lighthouse of creativity and culture. But when did we stop leading the way in beauty, innovation, and art? And what happens when the Church loses its bond with the artist? Catherine dives deep into this critical topic with special guests Isaac and Emily Gay, co-founders of the Parallel Society. With over twenty years of ministry experience pioneering creative communities, building prayer rooms, and raising three children of their own, Isaac and Emily have dedicated their lives to restoring creativity within the Church and equipping the next generation of artists. What You’ll Hear in This Episode: The Great Disconnect: Why did the Church abandon creativity, and how did this create a vacuum that Hollywood and secular culture rushed to fill? Redefining Christian Art: Isaac & Emily challenge the narrow definitions that often limit Christian expression. Drawing from Leo Tolstoy, they ask: What if Christian art isn’t only about displaying explicit symbols, but about work that promotes "an ethic and morality that longs for human flourishing"? Both Sides Matter: Listeners will hear why mending the rift between the Church and artists isn’t just a leadership issue—but requires artists to reexamine the purpose behind their work, moving beyond self-expression to serve a greater, redemptive calling. Restoring Beauty in the Home: Emily shares how families can cultivate creativity over convenience, offering hope-filled encouragement that it starts not on a stage or a gallery wall, but around the dinner table, in moments of Sabbath, and with simple, intentional practices that awaken wonder in children. The Power of Beauty: Catherine passionately reminds us: "We are losing our culture not because we lack truth, but because we’ve lost beauty. In a culture grown deaf to preaching, beauty still whispers. It still sings." Practical Wisdom & Inspiration: Hear how the Gays wrote their own family Sabbath liturgy, and get actionable ideas for fostering beauty, awe, and storytelling within your own home—no matter your artistic skills. Notable Quotes: “Creativity is not optional. It’s our calling.”“Beauty is the language our culture still understands. Are we speaking it?”“There is no formation without repetition. The job of a parent is to create space for the wild things to run.” – Isaac Gay About the Guests:Isaac and Emily Gay are founders of the Parallel Society, a ministry devoted to discipling artists in biblical truth. With two decades of experience engaging some of the most secular areas of the West, they offer invaluable insight on how the Church can once again become a wellspring of culture and innovation. What if the future of your child’s faith—and the influence of the Church—depends on how we restore this forgotten partnership with creativity and beauty? Tune in for encouragement, theological depth, and practical next steps for every parent who wants to raise a generation that doesn’t just reflect the world, but reclaims it for Christ through the power of art. Connect with Isaac & Emily Gay: isaacandemilygay.com Instagram: Isaac & Emily Connect with Catherine: Instagram Facebook Email at catherine@catherinesegars.com Special Resource for Moms:Looking for more encouragement? Don’t miss Catherine’s free groundbreaking ebook, "Beyond the Lies: Uncovering 5 Myths The Culture Spreads to Mothers." In just 20 minutes, you’ll discover the life-giving truth God speaks over every mom.👉 Download your copy and find more faith-filled resources by subscribing HERE. How are you fostering a love for beauty and creativity in your home? What’s one small way you can invite your children to co-create with God this week? Share your thoughts with us and join the conversation! Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Beauty is not a luxury—it's a vital, transformative force that shapes souls, redeems culture, and unlocks the creative potential God has placed in us all. In this inspiring and intensely practical episode, Catherine welcomes Isaac and Emily Gay to “Christian Parent, Crazy World” for a discussion that is anything but superficial. Together, they tackle the overlooked virtue of beauty in the church and in the home—a topic with power to reach the lost and restore what has been tragically neglected in the Western church. Isaac and Emily Gay share their hearts, talents, and hard-won wisdom from years of artistic leadership, ministry, and motherhood. With backgrounds in theater, worship, and church planting, they know firsthand the struggle of being artists in a culture—and a faith community—that too often sidelines creativity in favor of utilitarian metrics. Their mission? To help the modern church reclaim its historical role as a cultivator of beauty and creativity, both in its worship and its community life. Key topics explored in this episode: The Forgotten Virtue: Catherine and her guests outline how beauty once held a central place in the church, only to be pushed aside by industrial-age utilitarianism, soul-counting, and a focus on productivity at the expense of creativity. Healing the Rift: Catherine dives into the history of how secularism, dualism, and fundamentalist thinking fractured the relationship between church and creative souls. A Biblical Blueprint for Collaboration: Drawing from Exodus and the story of Bezalel and Oholiab—the first individuals filled with the Holy Spirit for the purpose of art—Emily and Isaac urge pastors and church leaders to actively commission and empower artists, forging genuine partnerships for the sake of the Gospel. The Culture-Shaping Power of Art: Isaac shares a provocative example from pop culture—Lil Nas X’s infamous “satanic shoes”—to illustrate how the world hasn’t forgotten art’s power, but the church has. The consequences? Hollywood and secular creatives have filled the cultural void abandoned by faith communities. Personal Stories and Honest Confessions: Catherine, Emily, and Isaac each open up about their individual struggles—feeling misunderstood, pressured to produce, and at times outright rejected by faith communities. Their honesty will resonate with parents, pastors, and anyone grappling with their creative calling. Reimagining Success: The conversation challenges the prevailing idea that only overtly “productive” or evangelical art is worthwhile, calling for a holistic embrace of beauty as a means of forming souls, shaping culture, and expressing the fullness of the Imago Dei. Have you ever wondered why the church has lost its cultural influence to Hollywood? Are you, or your children, gifted in the arts and unsure of how that fits in God’s kingdom? Are you a church leader looking to be a force for good in our culture? Emily and Isaac’s insights will encourage you to see artistic expression as a calling worthy of investment—and essential to the church’s mission in the world. This episode is essential listening for parents, pastors, creatives, and anyone longing to see God redeem our culture through something as simple—and as sacred—as beauty. Don’t miss this heartfelt and hope-filled conversation that just might change the way you see art, faith, parenthood, and the power of beauty to shape the world for good. Guest Bios: Isaac and Emily Gay are artists, worship leaders, and church planters in Buffalo, NY. With backgrounds in acting, worship, and the arts, they’ve helped lead church planting and prayer movements while building creative communities both locally and online. Parents of three boys, they are passionate about the power of beauty, creativity, and play—at home, in the church, and in culture. Episode Resources: Isaac’s Website & Instagram The Parallel Society The Prodigal by Isaac Gay For resources, free guides for parents, and more on nurturing creativity in your kids, visit catherine@catherinesegars.com. Stay curious. Stay creative. Let’s raise a new generation of culture-makers—one story, painting, song, or act of love at a time. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.