The Ladder of Love: Growing Closer to Jesus with Stasi Eldredge

October 19, 2026
00:00 35:16
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Many of us long for a deeper, more experiential life with Jesus. Might God be inviting us higher up and closer still?

In today's episode, Stasi Eldredge, author of The Ladder of Love: A Pathway to Emotional Healing and Spiritual Intimacy with Jesus, joins Arlene to talk about emotional healing and spiritual intimacy with Jesus. Stasi shares how she came to faith at 21 after a turbulent childhood, and what helped her through the early years of motherhood, including prayer, a Christian counselor, and friendship.

She explains the ladder of love, which moves from clay and sheep to child, friend, and bride, and why she took a sabbatical instead of quitting her work. She also covers daily quiet time at home, playing with your spouse, and becoming the supporting cast in your adult children's lives. Join us for an encouraging and inspiring conversation centered on God's character and our relationship with Him.

03:39 Stasi's story: a broken family and coming to Jesus at 21

09:06 First step in healing: invite Jesus into your pain

11:33 Why Stasi sought out a Christian counselor

14:02 Surviving the hidden years of young motherhood

15:56 What the ladder of love is and why it's a ladder

22:10 Rest, don't quit: Stasi's sabbatical

29:21 Play with your spouse: ping pong and cribbage

31:11 Becoming the supporting cast in your adult children's lives

Find out more about Stasi Eldredge and her book, The Ladder of Love: A Pathway to Emotional Healing and Spiritual Intimacy with Jesus at WildatHeart.org

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Meet Your Host
Arlene Pellicane is a speaker, host of the Happy Home Podcast, and author of several books including Parents Rising, Making Marriage Easier and Screen Kids.

Arlene has been featured on the Today Show, Fox & Friends, the Wall Street Journal, FamilyLife Today, Focus on the Family, and is the spokesperson for National Marriage Week. Arlene and her husband James have three children and live in San Diego. They have raised their kids without social media, video games and smartphones and inspire others to scroll less and live more. To learn more, visit her website at ArlenePellicane.com.
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