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The 95 Podcast: Conversations for Small-Church Pastors

with Dale Sellers and Caralee Culpepper

PTSD And The Ministry (w/ Jon Sanders) - Episode 142

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Dale returns the favor today by giving Caralee the week off as he talks with Jon Sanders about some of the things he learned recently at a special training in Mississippi called Tactical-Resilience Protocol (TRP) and Emotions-Management Process (EMP) from Although the focus was specifically on the effects of PTSD in first responders and the military, Jon helps us see how most pastors are dealing with the same kinds of emotional issues.

We dive into how trauma affects the nervous system requiring intentional focus to “put the trauma in its place.” Everyone has a basic fight, flight, freeze or fake response to ongoing traumatic situations. The honest transparency shared by Jon and Dale make this podcast one you’ll want to share with anyone working through emotional discouragement. 

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August 16, 2022
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Dale is a man with a powerful calling to help weary and worn pastors and church leaders.

He has been in ministry for 40 years. In July 2018, he accepted the position as the Executive Director of 95Network, and in September of 2020, he published his first book Stalled: Hope and Help for Pastors Who Thought They'd Be There By Now. His years of ministry have grown a deep love for small and midsize congregations — the backbone of the American church. He believes in the mission of 95Network, not only because it equips small churches to thrive, but also because it connects weary church leaders with friends and partners who care.

Dale and his wife Gina have been married 39 years, have three daughters, two sons- in-law, and two awesome grandchildren!
Caralee graduated with a Communications degree from Clemson University in 2008 and has spent the last 13 years working in content marketing, writing, and editing. As a pastor’s kid who grew up in midsize churches, she’s witnessed the challenges that come with ministry and has a passion for serving those in need and seeing churches succeed. She loves working with the foster parent resource center through her church and leading a community group with her husband.

Caralee currently lives in Greer, SC with her husband, David, and their two kids, Nora and Foster.
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